AIs Debate and Discuss Losey’s Last Article – “Cross-Examine Your AI” – and then a Podcast, a Slide Deck, Infographic and a Video!

AIs Debate and Discuss Losey's Last Article - "Cross-Examine Your AI" - and then a Podcast, a Slide Deck, Infographic and a Video! By Ralph Losey
Image: Ralph Losey with AI.

[EDRM Editor’s Note: EDRM is proud to publish Ralph Losey’s advocacy and analysis. All images in the article are by Ralph Losey using AI. Originally published on EDRM.net. This article remains the intellectual property of Ralph Losey and is shared with permission.]


Google AI Adds to Ralph Losey’s Last Article

I used Google’s NotebookLM to analyze my last article, Cross-Examine Your AI: The Lawyer’s Cure for Hallucinations. I started with the debate feature, where two AIs have a respectful argument about whatever source material you provide, here my article. The debate turned out very well (see below). The two debating AI personas made some very interesting points. The analysis was good and hallucination free.

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A humanoid robot dressed in a Santa outfit, holding a stack of colorful wrapped gifts in front of a decorated Christmas tree and fireplace.
Image by Losey using Google’s ‘Nano Banana Pro – Click here for animation on YouTube.

AI Debate

The back-and-forth argument in this NotebookLM creation lasts 16 minutes, makes you think, and may even help you to talk about these ideas with your colleagues.

A podcast promotional image featuring two individuals debating the importance of cross-examination in controlling AI hallucinations, with the title 'Echoes of AI' displayed prominently.
Click here to listen to the debate. Image: Ralph Losey with AI.

AI Podcast

I also liked the podcast created by NotebookLM with direction and verification on my part. The AI write the words, no time. It seems accurate to me and certainly has no hallucinations. Again, it is a fun listen and comes in at only only 12.5 minutes. These AIs are good at both analysis and persuasion.

Illustration for the podcast 'Echoes of AI' featuring two AI podcasters, with a digital background and details about the episode's topic and host.
Click here to hear the podcast, Image: Ralph Losey with AI.,

AI Slide Deck

If that were not enough, NotebookLM AI also made a 14-slide deck to present the article. The only problem is that it generated a PDF file, not a powerpoint format. Proprietary issues. Still, pretty good content. See below.

Cross_Examine_Your_AI_Expert-power-point-slides

AI Video

They also made a video, see below and click here for the same video on YouTube. It is just under seven minutes and has been verified and approved, except for its discussion of the Park v. Kim, case, which it misunderstood and yes, hallucinated the holding at 1:38-1:44. The Google NotebookLM AI said that the appeal was dismissed due to AI fabricated cases, whereas, in fact, the appeal upheld the lower court’s dismissal because of AI fabricated cases filed in the lower court.

Rereading the article it is easy to see how Google’s AI made that mistake. Oh, and to prove how carefully I checked the work, the AI misspelled “cross-examined” at 6:48 in the video: it only used one “s” i.w. – cros-examined (horrors). If I missed anything else, please let me know. I’m only human.

Except for that error, the movie was excellent, with great graphics and dialogue. I especially liked this illustration of the falling house of cards to show the fragility of AI’s reasoning when it fabricates. I wish I had thought of that image.

Illustration contrasting a collapsing house of cards on the left, symbolizing fragility, with a solid castle on the right, representing stability.
Screenshot of one of the images in the video at 4:49. Image: Ralph Losey with AI.

Even though the video was better than I could have created, and took the NotebookLM AI only a minute to create, the mistakes in the video show that we humans still have a role to play. Plus, do not forget, the AI was illustrating and explaining my idea, my article; although admittedly another AI, ChatGPT-5.2, helped me to write the article. Cross-Examine Your AI: The Lawyer’s Cure for Hallucinations.

My conclusion, go ahead and work with them, supervise carefully, and fix their mistakes. If you follow that kind of skeptical hybrid method, they can be good helpers.The New Stanford–Carnegie Study: Hybrid AI Teams Beat Fully Autonomous Agents by 68.7% (e-Discovery Team, 12/01/25).

Here is the video:

Click here to watch the video on YouTube. Image: Ralph Losey with AI.

Invitation to use these teaching materials.

Anyone is welcome to download and use the slide deck, the article itself, Cross-Examine Your AI: The Lawyer’s Cure for Hallucinations, the audio podcast, the debate, the infographic and the video to help them make a presentation on the use of AI. The permission is limited to educational or edutainment use only. Please do not change the article or audio content. But, as to the fourteen slides, feel free to change them as needed. They seem too wordy to me, but I like the images. If you use the video, serve popcorn; that way you can get folks to show-up. It might be fun to challenge your colleagues to detect the small hallucination the video contains. Even if they have read my article, I bet many will still not detect the small error.

Here is the infographic.

An infographic titled 'Cross-Examine Your AI: A Lawyer's Guide to Preventing Hallucinations,' illustrating a professional protocol for legal professionals to verify AI-generated content and avoid liability. It includes sections on the issues of unchecked AI, a documented global issue, and a three-phase protocol: Prepare, Interrogate, and Verify.
Infographic by NotebookLM of my article. Click here to download the full size image.

Ralph Losey Copyright 2025 – All Rights Reserved. Originally published on https://edrm.net/2025/12/ais-debate-and-discuss-loseys-last-article-cross-examine-your-ai-and-then-a-podcast-a-slide-deck-infographic-and-a-video/.


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  • Ralph Losey

    Ralph Losey is a writer and practicing attorney specializing in providing services in Artificial Intelligence. Ralph also serves as a certified AAA Arbitrator. Finally, he's the CEO of Losey AI, LLC, providing non-legal services, primarily educational services pertaining to AI and creation of custom GPTS.

    Ralph has long been a leader among the world's tech lawyers. He has presented at hundreds of legal conferences and CLEs around the world and written over two million words on AI, e-discovery, and tech-law subjects, including seven books.

    Ralph has been involved with computers, software, legal hacking, and the law since 1980. Ralph has the highest peer AV rating as a lawyer and was selected as a Best Lawyer in America in four categories: E-Discovery and Information Management Law, Information Technology Law, Commercial Litigation, and Employment Law - Management. For his full resume and list of publications, see his e-Discovery Team blog.

    Ralph has been married to Molly Friedman Losey, a mental health counselor in Winter Park, since 1973 and is the proud father of two children.

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